carmina vs meermin sizing

Its a standard Goodyear shoe, with no fuss. Forest is a rounded toe, regular instep and more room across the forepart. I have gone through years of posts comments where US readers often praised the company and you alleged unawareness about it, sometimes citing Alden as the only US quality shoemaker known to you. For reference, previous sizing threads 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 for extra data points. Brilliant. I will refrain from commenting on fit unless people think it will be helpful. Allen Edmonds on the other hand has been declining in quality. The quality of the leather isnt as good as Crockett and Jones, but is far superior to my Barker and Loake shoes. Most brands provide one width per shoe/last, which in the end really limits your ability to find the right fit (not to mention, to find the right fit for the shoe you actually want to buy). Please support us by using them. He replied straight-faced: No, we only use the best full-grain calf for our shoes. I did have a little heel slip in the beginning that went away. The choice of quality leather materials makes Meermin shoes very versatile and fitting for many wardrobes. Coming up on the PS Shop this Autumn/Winter, Tailoring for travelling: tough, comfortable, plain, So in order to create a frame of reference, I phoned Jesper Ingevaldsson, who writes the website, These are two of the best known shoe brands internationally, with Crocketts a British mainstay and, The English brands at this price level are, The level above that is made in Japan, and includes brands like, . Thanks for an informative post. I would also add that instead of trying to prove potential readers wrong, you might accept criticism gracefully and might have more success by doing more research and improving your writing. Still being worn with same sock thickness as the other Parkhurst last. Customers love the shape of the Almond Toe-Boxes of Meermin shoes Many believe that that design adds well to the elegance of the shoes. Seems to be a popular thing to write now. Carmina Inca Chukka - 10 UK. Particularly I struggle with the heel which I find very wide with most English makers. In the long run you will always regret buying a pair that ticks all the boxes, but doesnt have a good fit. When I was measured at Alden Madison and an AE store, both actually said I should lean toward 10D TTS, due to my flat feet and low instep, which led to many bad purchases. regards judging quality by calf not suede? Foot extends past footbed on sides, narrow waist causes some bowing. Styleforum is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. They also have thin rubber soles throughout, which some people like more, but is cheaper as well.. It is a smidge shorter than 2030, but that's due to the lack of taper. Now use your measurement and select the size based on your foot's length (see size chart below). These shoes are classily elegant shoes that elevate the fashion style of the shoe wearer. Is higher volume though. See and interact with all Instagram stories @PermanentStyleLondon. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Above all of these. very lucky to have bought 8 pairs of EG at a big discount so my shoe cupboard is overflowing and needs to be trimmed now They initially repaired free of charge and when the heels came loose again they replaced for a shoe from their 1880 range. Measured as 9.5 D. Will get more detailed measurements after the pandemic, along with a military last fitting. Worth asking. 9.5D heel to toe. Click Here to join Styleforum's thousands of style enthusiasts today! A lot of side to side play in the ankle. * **Gaziano Girling DG70** 8.5FUK comfortable. Alden Van (unlined shell): 10D, ended up selling before fully breaking in. I agree that they might be a touch conservative (although they do now have more stylised lasts compared to a few years back), and that youre less likely to get more interesting leathers like museum calf or patinated. The main difference is that cheaper brands use split suede, where the hides have been split into two layers (sometimes even three, but thats mainly used for even cheaper shoes), while more expensive brands use reverse calf suede (where you have the full hide, and the flesh side is sanded). I have experienced Cheaney a fair bit, my first two pairs of English shoes were from Cheaney main line (I still have one of them), plus I have worn Cheaneys imperial range as well as C&J mainline shoes. Finally and most importantly, find a last that truly fits your feet. Please dont take offence, I am just dead curious about it. Carmina Simpson Oxford - 10 UK. Is there a reason for that? Focus were on shoes below 300, Carlos Santos nowadays is a bit above that, but definitely good for the price. The Shelby boot has a lower instep as a result of the pattern as well. I've been told that the forest last is the only one available in a wide, but only in mto. If you don't have a lot of volume I would be pretty cautious with their loafers. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Carminas are more expensive than Meermin shoes, but they are also more valuable. I also happen to like their lasts, which are sleeker than anything else I own but the C&J 348. Carmina Simpson 8.5UK: Tried for oxfords but had to return, instep was too low for closed lacing. Simon, I really appreciate the articles lately with a focus on quality at a more approachable price point. Merrell Vapor Glove: 10D, no issues since there's barely any structure. Make a mark at the front of your longest toe. I would agree that some change has happened since Stollenwerk sold the company to an investment fund, they seem to have gone into the greed and certainly for some cost cutting somewhere to make up for the handicap of making in the US. I think I could tell the difference between a standard C&J and EG from a distance, though I wouldnt like to put that to the test! E. D. E. Wide. The quality of the leather and overall construction is superb. Alden Barrie 9D: Slightly snug, still comfortable, but my least favorite Alden last so far. Slightly low instep and volume. I shouldn't have slept on it), Monitaly Shawl Field Jacket - Black Herringbone 38, The unofficial NMWA Buy/Sell Thread (a.k.a. Carmina shoes have better soles than the Meermin shoes. I have a pair of black calf oxfords from Morjas and the leather feels rather cheap: it looks like patent leather, only matte not shiny. Permanent Style is the UK authority on classic and luxury menswear. Leo 9E/9.5D: Bad fit. But you might want to chat with Carmina first to double-check. I have not personally verified it since, but I believe that I am at the mid-to-upper end of 10.5 based on other fits. No idea what size I'd need to make this last work but I'd guess something like 9.5EE. As a simple example, in the UK the price of Consul, a black calf, toe-cap Oxford will increase from the current price of 495 to 720. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. You must log in or register to reply here. Id put them at around Barker/Loake territory, perhaps slightly better. Same thing is true at a luxury level. Grant Stone Alexander 8.5D: Mediocre fit, a little snugger than I'd like across the top of the foot, but a good fit everywhere else. You found 1 size in that last worked for you though? The shoe comes on Meermin's Ama last, which is of a classic and elegant shape. I'll only really be taking 2030 in 8.5 for 2017-2020 made pairs. AE is placed well below C&J and Carmina, lacklusterly portrayed together with cheaper brands, and tied with Loake. Tried an 8.5E on a 2014 manufactured pair and its better than the modern ones, but the taper is a bit more aggressive so I'd prefer a 9 in much older or "OG" 2030. Thanks, Simon, Ive read those already. He is, at the moment, offering something special forum readers. NWT Pual Smith Linen, Cotton & Silk Blend Neck Tie in Navy w/ White Polka Dots from MR Porter, New w/ Tag $200+ Brioni Italian Made Woven Silk Purple Paisley Neck Tie from Bergdorf Goodman, Vintage Dunhill English Made Black Leather Long Wallet. Actually, given the reader survey we did last year and how much the average reader earns and spends, I wouldnt be surprised if most do spend that regularly on their shoes. Fully bespoke shoes including trial pair start from about 550 depending on the exchange rate, and they offer ready to wear / MTO lines of various grades between 65 and 450. I am a little biased here because I have had these for longer than any other pair on this list, so they are more broken in, and the last happens to fit my foot better than any but the C&J 348 too. The Alden cordovan color of the shoe is achieved by a plastic pellicule which shaves rather quickly to reveal a light brown leather underneath. Ive purchased a few Grenson pieces this year. Id not have worn them in wet conditions though. Last month, Swedish shoe brand Myrqvist (above) sent me a pair of their loafers to try. Crockett & Jones (bench grade): I own the Alex (wholecut on 348 last). But whats my experience, and I know for many others as well who have good bespoke shoes, is that the experience of wearing them, with the snug comfortable fit, excellent arch support etc, widely triumph wearing RTW/MTO Goodyear welted shoes. Still fine for the price point, as this piece suggests, but the quality control is miserable. I do know and enjoy your blog, lots of useful information! In particular, if you're interested in this price bracket, check out, https://shoegazing.com/2016/08/12/review-crownhill-shoes-the-stewart/, https://shoegazing.com/2015/09/06/review-carlos-santos-7201-braga-cognac/, https://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/products/berwick-1707-penny-loafer-9628-dark-brown-suede?variant=19309209288766&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5ZCblaOs6gIVdBPTCh32aAttEAEYASABEgKcGvD_BwE, https://www.carminashoemaker.com/penny-loafers-brown-suede-80113, https://britishshoecompany.co.uk/collections/berwick-1707/products/berwick-mens-derby-leather-lace-up-shoes-5768-k6, https://it.velasca.com/collections/francesine-goodyear. The Yanko felt very similar to the TLB if a bit softer overall (this makes sense as the founder of TLB used to be with Yanko). Common Projects Achilles and Bball: 43 are some of my best fitting shoes, especially the Bballs that have a little more toe room. If youre better of with 2 pairs of JC than 1 pair of JL is another question. ", Spain 1: TLB, Yanko, Septieme Largeur and Andres Sendra. Of course choice is more limited, and its more pot luck, but who doesnt love a bargain? There are many brands in that segment, such as Joeworks or October Tenth, that I think might appeal to a fair number of PS readers. I guess I was just wondering whether some of those extra things were actually noticeable in terms of comfort, durability, etc, especially because a number of mid-range shoes now have some of the things you mentioned: closed channels, oak-bark soles (or if not, that is always something you can get on the resole), a wide range of leathers, etc. Porter?). Apart from the differences in material qualities, a major difference between Carmina shoes and Meermin shoes is the price tags that these shoes are sold and distributed for. Most of our ready to wear production goes from size 6UK to 12UK, but if you happen to wear a smaller or larger size, we can definitely help & specially make any pair from our collection for you. Their MSRP is slightly below C&J and at a certain point theyve been advertised as The finest bespoke shoes outside of England., On par with Shoepassion in Germany Id recommend Prime Shoes. I really only wear white, which is why we launched with this. TLB Artista full review here "But at the same time, I do think you get better value now for a 200 shoe than you did 10 years ago, despite inflation, because theres so much more competition. Please check Rafal's thread and patronize a true custom maker. I think the short answer is that yes, it is expensive to add an extra width across all shoes. Loake is not anywhere near. Nick horween has spoken at length about this, so shell cordovan chromexcel etc are technically corrected grain. Ive mostly moved to bespoke now due to my weird feet, but I do own a pair of Morjas suede chukkas that I use in bad weather. me, Morjas and Skolyx have been better in that regard. Ive only been reading PS for a few months, and I immediately got hooked to the point that I spend my free time reading past articles in order to catch up. Even for me and I have narrower feet than the average man. Rancourt 115 9D: Great fit. It would be nice to see more posts on the different plateaus (?) Also it seems that Carmina outlet in Granada used to sell Meermin shoes a few years back. Yes they do take a while to break in, but once they were, they ended up being just as comfortable as all my other GYW shoes. JF main line would definitely be in Spain 1. While, as you mention, most people dont see the difference between a 400 Goodyear welted shoe and a 4,000 bespoke shoe. Dont buy both together though do buy one then the other, just to make sure you do like that style and fit etc. These shoes are well-appraised by people worldwide for their comfort, style, and proper appearance. I happily pay the very reasonable cost for a brand providing a certain width, a good service, retaining the lasts that suits me and other added values. This is particularly true in the shoe market, given there are few designer brands spending big budgets on marketing and advertising. Steve. I'm looking at a cobbler union in a 312 last they recommended 1.5 down from brannock. Sometimes they run big and sometimes they run small. Take your size in any standard UK shoe (Cheaney, crockett, loake, alfred Sargent, churchs) and add half a size. Allen Edmonds is a shoe company and will always be known as such. Im going to give Cheaney (great value in the sales) a try instead. Parkhurst 18 Last 9D: Too narrow, should have gone TTS. Too tight in the vamp and mid-foot. Viberg 1035 8.5: Its a great looking last, heel is massive. And its one of the few industries where youre likely to be buying direct from the manufacturer. Carminas are better than Meermin shoes today because of one major thing: Better Material Quality. This is very useful, thank you. On the raw materials, you get oak-bark tanned soles, you get the top level of upper, and so on. Have you ever tried or heard of Idrese? They have a lot of life left in them. Barefoot, thick socks, whatever. My personal thoughts are as follows: Loake As the article suggests, the Loake 1880 is the bare minimum you should go for. Ive undergone a career change and offices in the US have become more and more lax about dress standards, even prior to 2020. Own 2 pairs and ordering a 3rd in this last. I think I could also safely do this last in in 9.5, but I'm not trying to wear my boots as tight as possible. Thats a point worth emphasising. He was told they had changed, as you see seem to have observed as well. Now fits comfortably after a substantial break in. if I like a pair of suede Edward Greens chelseas and Meermin (or Allen Edmond or Loake) chelseas the same out of the box, would I enjoy the EG uppers longer because theyre of a higher grade suede? What struck a cord for me is consistency of (most) english manufacturers. My issue with C&J is that the range of G fits has been reduced significantly. Might not be the same for everyone, but many who havent tried bespoke shoes would be very happy once they do, that Im quite sure off. Loake1880 is good starting point and it used to be a very good value. The next level of price is below 250. You may learn more here. Regarding the soles, the comment was of course a generalisation, and of course British makers use European soles in most cases, that doesnt change anything. The leather feels like a glove and is truly unlined (to the extent that the uppers almost collapse under their own weight), unlike Carminas unlined shoes which dont feel all that different from normal lined shoes. Thanks for the personal comment it is very helpful and interesting, Any thoughts about the German brand Hammerstein? Honest , relevant and informative. I find the shoe discussion to be an interesting one. Would really appreciate any advice you can give! Still pretty good value (it is the company I originally used before I could afford better) but not nearly as good as it was some time ago. Thursday Dress last 9.5D: Quite narrow, I wear thinner socks with these. Yes literally hard as rock but very nice looking in their box.. Agree Alan, buyer beware that they are extremely hard to break in. Thanks. The Rain 7.5EEE was okay but not great - more tight than comfortably snug, and I'm not sure if they would break in well for me. They may not be top tier but they certainly are hard wearing. Berwick is very good quality and seems to be stealing some of Loakes market share in the U.K. Prices at the well known shoe store near Victoria undercut Loake. No stretch sir. Interesting ! I havent covered Allen Edmonds in the past both because I havent had much experience of them, and because they were below the quality level we normally cover on PS hence their inclusion in this article, which was intended to round-up lots of cheaper makers. The dress shoes classics hold their own. Not sure the best place for this, and realise there is no correct answer but was wondering your view on the proportional cost of shoes to suits, shirts etc? Cork/insole filling will also compress. Here's some of my sizing for reference: Meermin RON 11.5 medium Tricker's Bourton 10.5 Tricker's Stow 11 Carmina Xim UNLINED 10.5 Carmina Simpson 11.5 Alden Grant 11.5 Loake Jockey last (G-Fit): 7UK fits but a bit roomy on chelsea boots. D. C. D. Medium. Do you know what thats down to? Ive just received an email from Herring Shoes announcing that Church Shoes Ltd have decided to increase their prices to reposition their brand at a higher price point. Can add that you can find a review of Carlos Santos here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2015/09/06/review-carlos-santos-7201-braga-cognac/. I own two loafers by Morjas, one stretched so much that my heel keeps slipping out. Below that, there are smaller differences created by new entrants to the market. Out of the two shoe brands, however, Carmina shoes come forth as the best shoes in this discourse. I'm interested in branching out from C&J to Carmina so I'll be paying attention to this thread. Viberg 2030E 9: Specifically for the Halketts which have a trimmed waist and slight pattern changes these are okay in a half size up with boot socks. A couple of years ago, I returned two pairs of Oxfords that needed resoling after less than ten wears each. The soles are more durable, the calf leather takes polish better and ages better, elements of the make lead to extra comfort (as do the materials), the make is finer and so looks better, and so on. NF Bootmaker 43.5: Had these modified for a wider waist as the 44 was a bit long. The equivalent shoes are both online currently for 400 each. Boot socks. Crocketts and Carmina are in there largely for context, as mentioned. Initially uncomfortably tight across the vamp in shell and with moderate heal slip. Carmina shoes are made with premium materials that are much superior to materials used for making Meermin shoes. As mentioned in the top comment, we were focusing on shoes under 300. I converted my US size to UK and got that one, should have done 1/2 down from UK. Id advise anyone whos a fan of RTW Northampton and Spanish shoes to go to the source and/or their stockists. The alternative was to shut out the market of men with wider feet. Put simply, if you pay 250 for a shoe you cannot get 500 quality. Hi Simon, you mentioned at the top that Carmina doesnt use plastic heel stiffener. Great article I wonder what you think of the dilemma I currently find myself in?.. Meermins have also been fine, especially for suede loafers. The level above that is made in Japan, and includes brands like Scotch Grain (above) and Otsuka, with brands like Miyagi Kogyo and Oriental on a level above that. France doesnt have the shoemaking tradition of the UK, Spain or Italy, and its brands like Loding or Orbans are all made in Spain and Portugal. They are slightly cheaper than the C&J handgrade line, though I am not sure what drives the difference. Guess it goes to show how individual it all is. You can buy Carmina shoes at price tags that read between 341 and 407. Similar wide heel to the 1035. Because my older Carmina heel stiffener are longer and substantial that the newer ones. And sorry for the long post, whenever I come across such I wonder whether the guy is a bit insane, but then, passion, what? The stitching on the soles is also less dense, though the soles do have some nice detailing like shaped waists and channeled soles, as you mentioned. They wear down quickly." They are amazing shoes. Its also an experience shared by many others with much more experience than me of various brands, and something Ive been told by both retailers who sell both British and European shoes, and not least cobblers. In the end I find both brands run small and you rather need half a size or for Bobbies an entire size larger than what you would have with Santoni for example. In durability? Perhaps someone will find them useful: 1. Thanks for the response. For each last, add any thoughts on fit, including ankle/shaft fit for boots. Would you stick to brands such as Alden, EG, (or else) for RTW ? Bought before I understood my size. It is good with athletic socks. Interesting times and personal style journey. I think that chukka looks nice. The 5th toe of my right foot has always been mildly adducted and overlapping the 4th toe. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); Footslide.com is a full-time participant of the Amazon Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com, 2023 Footslide.com | All Rights Reserved. RON 9: Terrible fit. RM Williams Comfort Craftsman: 9.5G AUS - Great fit. Carminas just dont break down easily. For a RTW offering, without additional charge, that is a massive advantage for anyone wary of shelling out for MTM alternatives, and I would have expected something worth telling readers. Wesco MP1339 9E: It's alright, toe box is really low and the gusset take up volume running the whole way up the boot as it is fully gusseted. Well start with three Swedish ones, all making in Spain or Portugal. I cant imagine very people are going to buy a sports jacket or merino sweater there. Arch support is nowhere near the 55 last but feels much more substantial than any other maker listed. Thanks for the informative post. Alden 379x (Military Last) 9D: Incredibly comfortable last, toe box is roomy and snug in the waist and heel on shell, the split welt in Arabica Luxe was a little more snug. JavaScript is disabled. Now, Id probably look at a boot like the Conniston or Islay. No one wants their sole to wear down quickly, but points like the shaped waist are more aesthetic, and its up to you whether you care about them. Im always trying to promote Goodyear-welted shoes, but its not easy when someone has just tried Meermin, and thinks all proper shoes are that hard. F. E. F. Extra-wide. C&J 341 - 9.5 UK. MP/Barrie 9.5E: Excellent fit right out of the box with thick or thin socks. Very few English RTW offer much in the way of narrow lasts. All Enzos were tried as oxfords and have comfortable insteps with no gap, * **Fugashin Saigon unknown wholecut last** 8UK comfortable, good instep for oxford, * **Gaziano Girling DG70** 8.5EUK comfortable. Overall, Meermin shoes are great shoes, but they appear to be poorly finished when compared to Carminas. Probably also worth mentioning the Carlos Santos brand from Portugal in this price bracket. I have a pair of Berwick chukkas and theyre pretty decent but they also dont feel as good to wear as the AEs (personally I wish Id spent more money on a higher quality make, but the store was out of C&J chukkas at the time). The ball of my foot is at the widest part of the boot. Its a comparable quality level, at a slightly lower price, and uses leather-board heel stiffeners. I recently received these is shell and I'm still breaking them in. Check the Noble Shoe eshop for several decent ones. Barrie 9.5D: Bad fit. Thanks for your efforts! Here in the States, the mark-up on most of these brands, when one can get them, tends to be breathtaking. Closed lacing a few mm shy of coming together on day one. Not a thick sock last. I have had great buys from Tricker none were country shoes, but one pair had channeled soles, which even at full price would have been a bargain. While a bespoke suit might of course feel a bit better in how it fits and how you can move, it isnt really more comfortable and better for the health of your body compared to a midrange full canvas suit, in the same way as bespoke shoes. US size 8 at the best online prices at eBay! I dont think theyre very different, but no I cant compare directly, as I dont own GC RTW. There is a great day out to be had (or was) visiting the factory shops of the main makers in and around Northampton. Exceptional quality and the best quality shoes I own. It's been a while, but I didn't have any complaints after break in. 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