You could just do an across-the-board search of various Western religions and look at who the figureheads are. The Aztec, the Inca, and todays Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, are very collectivistic. This is a summary of the book Freakonomics by Stephen DubnerJoin Reading.FM now: https://fourminutebooks.com/go/readingfm/register/Read more summaries: http. And in a collectivistic society, a person is like an atom in a crystal. Because $1 is more than zero, so the second player would still be better off. We should note that Bert and Ernie, despite their differences, are very dear friends! Gert Jan HOFSTEDE: None of it is intentional. We look at how these traits affect our daily lives and why we couldnt change them even if we wanted to. Michele Gelfand and several co-authors recently published a study in The Lancet about how Covid played out in loose versus tight cultures. GELFAND: Exactly. But if youre not an economist, if youre a regular human being, you can see why the second player might reject a $1 offer. . Consider the prominent Muppets Bert and Ernie. The correct answer of the given question above would be the second option. Everyone knows there are differences between people in different countries, but his approach was a quantifiable approach. Next on the list: what Hofstedes late father, the originator of this culture model, called power distance. Thats the extent to which the less powerful members of organizations or institutions be it society at large or just a family accept and expect that power is distributed unequally.. DUBNER: So I have to say, Gert Jan, youve made me feel kind of terrible about being American today. We are acronymically WEIRD. I think those fundamental religious beliefs extend to the American view of what leadership should look like outside of the church in the corporation, in the legislatures, and what have you. And life is an adventure. Freakonomics has since grown up into a media company, complete with documentary, radio show, and blog. Do you know what you are? Why not? Public school quality B. Culture is not genetics or biology or individual characteristics. Its more about how individuals are acted upon by the people and institutions around them. But for folks who are pushed out of the mainstream you know, Black folks have rarely had the luxury of thinking about just simply being themselves. . So the Singapore government says, Look, this is our culture The rest of that sentence didnt have to be said. Controlling for a variety of other factors, they found that looser countries the U.S., Brazil, Italy, and Spain have had roughly five times the number of Covid cases and nearly nine times as many deaths as tighter countries. Freakonomics Essay. Equating individualism with selfishness may be a mistake: Some of the world's wealthiest and most individualistic countries are some of the most altruistic, says 13.7 guest commentator Abigail Marsh. Heres another example: HENRICH: People from more individualistic societies tend to focus on central objects. The Pros and Cons of America's (Extreme) Individualism. Thats right: we are No. The comedians John Oliver, Hannah Gadsby, and Kumail Nanjiani all grew up outside the U.S. If you no longer even pretend to be one people and to be fair to all the citizens of your country, then youre not going down a road that leads to a great future. So how it is that we acquire ideas, beliefs, and values from other people, and how this has shaped human genetic evolution. HOFSTEDE: Look, guys, we can do it. So after we ran that first project, we redid the entire project, and we took concerns like the one Francisco had. Sinopsis. Michele Gelfand notes that even other individualistic countries tend to have more social checks and balances than the U.S. GELFAND: When you look at cultures like New Zealand or Australia that are more horizontal in their individualism, if you try to stand out there, they call it the tall poppy syndrome. 470. GELFAND: We have a whole new map of the U.S. where we can actually rank-order the U.S. 50 states in terms of how much threat they have. Around this time, he started doing some teaching at the Institute for Management Development in Lausanne, Switzerland. 470 Replay) Freakonomics Radio | Freakonomics Radio Publicit Annonce - 0 s 00:00 00:00 Suivant | propos Voir la description Freakonomics Radio. Im a professor of artificial sociality at Wageningen University, in the Netherlands. It was there, and later on in travels in the Middle East, and working on a kibbutz, and elsewhere, that I started recognizing this really powerful force of culture that was incredibly important but really invisible. And it drives us crazy. Now that weve taken a top-down view of how the U.S. is fundamentally different from other countries, were going to spend some time over the coming weeks looking at particular economic and social differences, having to do with policing, child poverty, infrastructure, and the economy itself. According to a decades-long research project, the U.S. is not only the most individualistic country on earth; we're also high on indulgence, short-term thinking, and masculinity. Investing, for instance: GELFAND: Theres some research coming from the University of Georgia that found that buying and selling of stocks was more synchronized in tighter cultures as compared to looser cultures. GELFAND: Exactly. Whether proud or not, whether happy or not, it has a position. DUBNER: Are you the creator of the looseness-tightness system for looking at culture? In the Germanic world, we have systems, which means that nothing stands alone. Study with Quizlet and memorize flashcards containing terms like Read the excerpt from Levitt and Dubner's Freakonomics. She says these are merely visible indicators of a countrys tightness or looseness and its what you dont necessarily see that shapes a given countrys culture. 1, the most individualistic country in the world, 91 out of 100 on the Hofstede scale of individualism. (This is part of theFreakonomics RadioAmerican Culture series). Because remember, threat is what can drive tightness. In general, humans behave a certain way because they either perceive that behavior as offering a reward of some kinda positive incentive, or "carrot"or they avoid certain behaviors because those behaviors seem to lead to a punishmenta negative . You had Woodstock, and youre going to have this kind of stuff happening again. Freakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything (Part of the Freakonomics Series) by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J . NEAL: So its always evolving, its always developing, but theres some core principles. DUBNER: When youre inclined to look at the U.S. in a positive light, do you find uncertainty avoidance to be largely a force for the good in terms of creating and building a strong society, or do you think its more ? We can think about extraordinarily loose contexts like Tesla or Uber that probably need a little more structure. Freakonomics is a groundbreaking collaboration between Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner, an award-winning author and journalist. Then he tried a coffee can with a money slot in its plastic lid, which also proved too tempting. Macroeconomics, on the other hand, works on a larger scale. Still, Gelfands horizons were suddenly expanded; and her curiosity was triggered. Offers went up as high as 55 or 60 percent in some places and then down around 25 percent in other places. Heres how he puts it in his latest book: You cant separate culture from psychology or psychology from biology, because culture physically rewires our brains and thereby shapes how we think. One example he gives is literacy. And I think this community-spiritedness has been built in us since we were very young. Freakonomics Quotes. NEAL: Were a country that presumes male leadership. But a lot of the world is much more like a family. The reason we reached out to Michele Gelfand is that I want to understand this stuff better, too. "Information is a beacon, a cudgel, an olive branch, a deterrent--all depending on who wields it and how.". And yes, well talk about what makes America, America at least as seen through the eyes of Kumail Nanjiani, who was born in Pakistan. Chronic threat meaning a country is prone to natural disasters, or disease, or hostile invaders. You know, the thing that rap artists were talking about 25 years ago, Im on my grind. Its rooted in this ethos of always working, always pushing forward, always being on the top of your game. But, lets look at the pandemic from a different angle: which country produced the most effective Covid-19 vaccines? HOFSTEDE: In an individualistic society, a person is like an atom in a gas. The Pros and Cons of America's (Extreme) Individualism. GELFAND: Weve had our share of threat, but just not chronic threat. The answer to that is usually: no, you cant. Compared to other countries including places like Japan, Singapore, Germany we can afford to be more permissive. He started out as an anthropologist; but he started mixing and matching disciplines to suit his curiosity. But it can make life harder for the millions of Americans who arent so entrepreneurial, or rugged, or individualistic. You may decide to go another way, but that doesnt make the river change. Heres the dean of the National University of Singapores school of public health: YIK-YING TEO: We have a tradition of having national campaigns to galvanize people to proceed in a common direction. You're stuck in a metal tube with hundreds of strangers (and strange smells), defying gravity and racing through the sky. They are descended from people who came here of their own free will and in order to execute their own free will. Freakonomics Revised and Expanded Edition. GELFAND: In cross-cultural psychology, we study how ecological and historical factors cause the evolution of differences. Well, because theyre really smart. There are plenty of looser people in tight countries and vice versa. (Part 1 of " Freakonomics Radio Takes to the Skies .") Culturally maybe more than anything! Joe Henrichs research into national psychologies led him to an even more fascinating conclusion. His late father was a social psychologist who devised a system to rank countries on several dimensions including their level of individualism versus collectivism. The two players dont know each other. That is not just the most American thing thats ever happened. Why Does the Most Monotonous Job in the World Pay $1 Million? GELFAND: The U.S. is one of the most creative places on the planet. And: In present-day Scandinavia levels of individualism would thus have been significantly higher had emigration not occurred.. Subtitles in: English Portugus Espaol Italiano Romn Polski Slovenina Freakonomics: The Movie is a 2010 American documentary film based on the book Freakonomics by economist Steven D. Levitt and writer Stephen J. Dubner. HOFSTEDE: In an individualistic society, a person is like an atom in a gas. NEAL: I think thats always been a tension in Black culture, around this idea of Americas rugged individualism and the collectivity of Blackness that was born out of necessity because of segregation. You can see this on many dimensions: how we work and travel; how we mate and marry; how we care for our children and our elderly; how we police; how we conceive the relationship between the individual and the state; even how we manage death! If youre an economist, you might think that offering even $1 out of the 100 would be enough. In the U.S., it was freedom to do whatever the hell that you wanted to. My husband is an attorney. Better Essays. You look at parents and how they treat their kids art. Happiness is going to be lower, but crime, too. Most white Americans have an entirely different ancestral history. Hes horrified by my dishwasher-loading behavior. HOFSTEDE: There was a Quaker at the head of I.B.M. Heres how it works. Michele GELFAND: The people that came to New York early on, they were from all sorts of different cultural backgrounds, and thats helped produce the looseness that exists to this day. DUBNER: I find that people who dont load dishwashers carefully are usually pretty loose with the planning. Heres one of the questions they asked. Life is going to be hard. GELFAND: And there was discussion in the cross-cultural psychology community about how James Bakers unemotionalcommunication style was received as This is not so serious, in terms of Tariq Azizs understanding of Americans intentions. It's part of our founding D.N.A. So I am actually optimistic. 493 Update) Adam Smith famously argued that specialization is the key to prosperity. In the real world, Feldman learned to settle for less than 95 percent. 47 min. And so often, theyll just point at some other country on the map. GELFAND: They talk about individualistic accomplishments. Anyway, in this episode of No Stupid Questions, we'll be talking about how our surroundings can make us smarter and maybe happier too. The U.S. is a pretty successful country, maybe the most successful country on many dimensions in the history of the world. HENRICH: My favorite explanation for this I think this has been put out most clearly by a sociologist named Rodney Stark is that with freedom of religion, you get competition amongst religious organizations. HENRICH: So places like New York and London, people are blazing down the sidewalks. Just like good science, good . You know what it is, you know how it works, you dont necessarily have access to the people who really hold on to it. He grew up in England. DUBNER: What does an institution like the Navy see as the upsides of more looseness? And that really can help explain some variation not all, but some variation in norms and values. Thats Mark Anthony Neal of Duke University. This is the flip side of the idea we started out with in this episode that is, why its hard for the U.S. to simply import successful policies from elsewhere. On a certain level, this is obvious: These are cultures that have norms and traditions that have endured for centuries. GELFAND: Well, we can look back to Herodotus. Its like, Oh, my gosh, that is so amazing. I was feeling like I have to tell that to my kids as a good parent, training my kids to be vertical and individualistic. The fifth cultural dimension is one that I think will resonate with everyone whos ever listened to Freakonomics Radio, since it is at the crux of problem-solving. There is a strong desire to be more feminine. In case you missed it, thats Western. That is one of the main guests in todays episode. She did want to measure culture, and how it differs from place to place. He started working as an engineer during turbulent years of rebuilding, and soon became a personnel manager. And by the way, in that sense, the U.S.A. is also a huge laboratory of society formation, hopefully, which is by no means finished. In Germany, for instance, labor unions often have a representative on company boards, which can radically change the dynamic between companies and employees. And if there are crumbs in the sheets, theyll get in your pajamas. In the meantime, take care of yourself and, if you can, someone else too. It is still the case that you did have the summer of love. Once he saw that differences were driven by nationality, Hofstede sensed he was on to something big. HENRICH: I was doing research in the Peruvian Amazon. When Americans did this experiment, a third of them conformed and gave an obviously wrong answer. A recent paper by a Harvard postdoc named Anne Sofie Beck Knudsen analyzed Scandinavian emigration from 1850 to 1920, when roughly 25 percent of the Scandinavian population left their countries, a great many coming to the U.S. People of an individualistic mindset were more prone to migrate than their collectivistic neighbors, she writes. This realization is what led us to todays episode of Freakonomics Radio. Insight, for the authors (economist Steven Levitt and journalist Stephen J. Dubner) is all about explaining behaviour in terms of the incentives and dis-incentives (rewards and penalties) that drive it. HOFSTEDE: And his special methodological trick was not to do what is now called a pan-cultural analysis across all the respondents, but first to lump them into groups. But oh, the places you'll go! So $10 in this case. Freakonomics, which weighs in at just over 200 pages (plus a hefty section of bonus material for those interested in learning more), takes as its principal argument the idea that economics exist as a tool to study society. A tight country like Germany tends to set strict limits on noise, with mandated quiet hours. New York City, meanwhile, has been called not just the city that never sleeps, but the city that never shuts up. Tight countries tend to have very little jaywalking, or littering or, God forbid, dog poop on the sidewalks. Which is more dangerous, a gun or a . I have a professorship in Joburg in South Africa, too. GELFAND: I was watching this negotiation between Tariq Aziz and James Baker. Multilevel Research of Human Systems: Flowers, Bouquets and Gardens, The Interaction Between National and Organizational Value Systems, 11 A. M. Sunday Is Our Most Segregated Hour,, The U.S. Is Just Different So Lets Stop Pretending Were Not (Ep. Episode 470 The Pros and Cons of America's (Extreme) Individualism. Wed rather think about solutions temporarily rather than as, this might take some time. It means that we need to attract different types of people to an organization. the benefits to an individual from study and engagement in a topic. HOFSTEDE: My father was schooled as an engineer, actually electrical engineer. Thats my idea. Like, the military should be tighter than tech. That is something that fundamentally many whites dont understand, right? HENRICH: And Americans have this probably worse than anybody. Let's now consider the following statistic, which represents the hundreds of matches in which a 7-7 wrestler faced an 8-6 wrestler on a tournament's final day: 7-7 WRESTLER'S PREDICTED WIN PERCENTAGE AGAINST 8-6 OPPONENT: 48.77-7 WRESTLER'S ACTUAL WIN PERCENTAGE AGAINST 8-6 OPPONENT: 79.6So the 7-7 wrestler, based on . These were surveys of I.B.M.s own employees around the world. 1-Page Summary 1-Page Book Summary of Freakonomics. She likes to eat human food. The downsides: less innovation, less openness to ideas that challenge the status quo, and less tolerance for differences in religion and race. Neal is a professor of African and African-American studies. GELFAND: I would say it tends to be California. Rich. DUBNER: These are the two lines that are the same. But we tried to address that. Study with Quizlet and memorize flashcards containing terms like The Freakonomics podcast "Is the American Dream really dead?", mentions five main factors that contribute to social mobility in neighborhoods. These attacks continue as I speak. The New Yorker's Malcolm . One of the defining features of Americanism is our so-called "rugged individualism." You might even call it wild individualism. Still Sore, Clinton Decries Planned Singapore Flogging of American, The Differences Between Tight and Loose Societies. Theres not going to be violent crime. Not necessarily better or worse but very different. As an Amazon Associate, Freakonomics may earn commissions from qualifying purchases made through links on this site. You may have noticed that Hofstede neglected to mention a certain country that we Americans tend to care about quite a bit. You may decide to go another way, but that doesnt make the river change. Youre culturally confident. But first, Hofstede had to make sure that the differences he was seeing in the data werent specific to I.B.M. The U.S. assembled a coalition of allies. Thats what we call tight-loose ambidexterity. But even a loose country will tighten up when a threat arises. 470. But then she took a semester abroad, to London. So were all constraining one another through our collective culture. That would be very beneficial because now you might be going down the path of civil war, really. Through forceful storytelling and wry insight, they show that economics is . OLIVER: Baseballs were hit from the deck of a warship from a needlessly inflatable batting cage. A dream team of directors e. This episode was produced by Brent Katz. She was majoring in pre-med. That, again, is the cross-cultural psychologist Michele Gelfand. Whats a Chaos Muppet? Okay, it took half of this episode to go through just the first of the six dimensions of national culture individualism versus collectivism. GELFAND: We have a lot of work to do, theres no question. we're looking out for the best interest of our individual pursuits. They dont even see each other and this is a one-time interaction, so there wont be another round of the game where the second player can punish or reward the first player. And I shifted from pre-med into what turned into a career of cross-cultural psychology. Dubner speaks with Nobel laureates and provocateurs, intellectuals and entrepreneurs, and various other underachievers. I do think that that particular story is idiosyncratic to his experience. "The typical parenting expert, like experts in other fields, is prone to sound exceedingly sure of himself. HENRICH: And this can include motivations, heuristics, biases, beliefs. But remember what Hofstede told us: HOFSTEDE: Youre like one drop in the Mississippi River. HOFSTEDE: Because its true: the very same dimensions under different circumstances, can work the other way. GELFAND: In societies that are tighter, people are willing to call out rule violators. All that it takes is to get out of their cages of bickering and anxiety. The ancient Romans. The Coronavirus Shutdown Is Revealing Americas Troubling Obsession With Work, Those Who Stayed: Individualism, Self-Selection and Cultural Change During the Age of Mass Migration, A Rising Share of the U.S. Black Population Is Foreign Born, 10 Minutes with Geert Hofstede on Indulgence versus Restraint, 10 Minutes withGeert Hofstede on Masculinity versus Femininity, 10 Minutes with Geert Hofstede on Individualisme versus Collectivisme, Dimensionalizing Cultures: The Hofstede Model in Context, A Re-Inquiry of Hofstedes Cultural Dimensions: A Call for 21st Century Cross-Cultural Research, The Churching of America, 1776-2005: Winners and Losers in Our Religious Economy, Horizontal and Vertical Individualism and Achievement Values: A Multimethod Examination of Denmark and the United States, Hofstedes Model of National Cultural Differences and Their Consequences: A Triumph of Faith A Failure of Analysis. For the last few months, the city-state has seen just a handful of Covid-19 cases. We also realize that were a culture in distress in many, many, many ways. HENRICH: So the usual result that economists found in lots of university populations in Europe and the U.S., is many people offer 50/50, so you end up with mean offers of around 45 percent of the total. Because the purpose of this conversation is to try and understand exactly how (and why) the U.S. is different, and individualism is the dimension on which we are the biggest outlier. But that makes sense. In our previous episode, we made what may sound like a bold claim. According to a decades-long research project, the U.S. is not only the most individualistic country on earth; we're also high on indulgence, short-term thinking, and masculinity (but low on "uncertainty avoidance," if that makes you feel better). HOFSTEDE: And this is before the 60s, before the 70s. It turns out that Americans were among the least likely to conform. The U.S. is just different from other places in a variety of ways that we often dont stop to think about. The best thing you can become is yourself. In 1990, when Gelfand was a graduate student, she followed the news as Iraq invaded Kuwait. This individualism has produced tremendous forward progress and entrepreneurial energy. Freakonomics is a registered service mark of Renbud Radio, LLC. Gert Jan Hofstede is a Dutch culture scholar whos been walking us through these dimensions. HENRICH: But if you want to talk about humans, then you have a problem. There were a number of low offers of 15 percent, which didnt get rejected. I do think that humanity as a whole is sort of evolving to being more reflective. HOFSTEDE: In the U.S.A., individualism coupled with masculinity creates a society where if youre not a winner, youre a loser. making a claim about his individual experiences and looking for evidence. I asked Hofstede what he would advise if a given country did want to change its culture? We are supremely WEIRD. Allen Lane 20, pp304. Even Gert Jan Hofstede suggests that his model shouldnt be seen as overly deterministic. They make sure that there is no violation of any ritual. Gert Jan Hofstede - Freakonomics. Get personalized recommendations, and learn where to watch across hundreds of streaming providers. And we found the full spectrum of variation. The second one measures whats called power distance. (Dont worry, well explain the name later.) In the beginning, Feldman left behind an open basket for the cash, but too often the money vanished. And Im particularly interested in how its shaped our psychology. And in culture, uncertainty means not knowing the ritual, not knowing how status-worthy or blameworthy some action is. GELFAND: Places in the South have tended to have more natural disasters. Youre going to be shut down. At the core of Freakonomics is the concept of incentives. The incentives of just any regular person are greatly shown because money or personal gain can take over any man or woman no matter how old. . Individualism, Modern Capitalism, and Dystopian Visions Introduction to Heritage and Multicultural American Identities: Contemporary Voices (1970-2000) Introduction to Contemporary Literature of the Twenty-First Century The Poetry of Physics RL.CCR.3 Analyze how and why individuals, events, and ideas develop and interact over the course of a text. Okay, lets get into the six dimensions. HENRICH: Im a researcher who tries to apply evolutionary theory to understand human behavior and human psychology and particularly culture. Steven D. Levitt, the self-described "Rogue Economist" of the title, uses this tool to analyze a random assortment of . Gert Jan HOFSTEDE: Culture is the ripples on the ocean of human nature. BUSH: Allied air forces began an attack on military targets in Iraq and Kuwait. So how much would you offer? 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