In a copy of that never-before-seen warrant, it was revealed that Libby and Abby lost a lot of blood during their murders and were not killed in the same location where their bodies were discovered along the Delphi Historic Trials. DELPHI MURDERS: INDIANA MAN REPORTEDLY IN CUSTODY IN CONNECTION WITH 2017 KILLINGS OF 2 GIRLS, Authorities announced Monday the arrest of Richard Allen, center, for the murders of Libby German, left, and her best friend, Abby Williams, in Feb. 2017. Stepson X is Mrs. Xs child by a previous marriage and may have been adopted by Mr. X. Police revealed they believe their suspect may be hiding in plain sight. all the while not leaving any DNA behind. April 22, 2019 Indiana State Police News Bulletin, 3. Like I said, idk. Photo from the perspective of the railroad bridge, view from the west facing east. He added that they didnt publicize it because the town was freaked out enough by one murder, and they thought the idea of two killers would make people panic. Their bodies were found the following day in a wooded area a short distance from the Monon High Bridge Trail. How do I log in? Whether the homicide location and the body disposal location are the same is unknown. RELATED: Arrest made in Delphi murders of 2 teens in 2017; suspect worked at the local pharmacy, residents say. So why does the composite differ so much from the suspect? Delphi police and the prosecutor's office said a public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Remember the social media photo Abby and Libby posted the night before the murders? But the goal is the same, from our hearts we want Justice for Abby & Libby. Investigators had previously released a different composite sketch that was "based on a previous witness," according to Carter. Everything We Know About The Unsolved Delphi Murders. We dont know what his original first name was, but his original last name was not the same as Mr. Xs. 0. "So when we check the phone records, the police call was about 5:20, -Becky Patty,Timestamp 29:00, Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, 7. I read your other post and Ive come to the conclusion that someone else set up the crime scene. The full press conference can be found on YouTube and nothing seems to give this impression. So we have more evidence, albeit the third-hand source we have never talked to. Further, this rumor was first made after the wife of a detective working on the case posted online. I do believe that the new developments in this case are pertinent and involve the early search on bicycle road in some way. I think much of it might be true. Just FYI. That is correct. I would like to talk to you about a couple of theories I have come up with. This is why its so hard to get girls this age pregnant. These sketches were both alleged to have been created by witnesses speaking with a sketch artist. Logans home was just 1,400 feet from where Libby and Abbys bodies were found. The girls were reported missing by 5:30 p.m., and an Amber Alert was sent out across the state of Indiana for the missing teenagers. Haven't heard of rumored nasa pics. Archived post. A newspaper photographer, mentioned earlier in Evidence V, named J. Kyle Keener added a description to his facebook photo album in which he describes what he could see in the creek on February 14, 2017. Something's fishy I think. Get all the stories you need-to-know from the most powerful name in news delivered first thing every morning to your inbox. I don't think it looks like BG. Please keep thatin mind when discussing the physical evidence. Undated. The detective had had a hard time sleeping at night because the case upset him so much. I mean what if he approached the car after she dropped the girls off and she knew who he was and was polite and replied but didn't want to think it was him. Witness names, as well as the name of a Delphi detective were kept redacted. Turns out the brother of a team member is best friends with this high-ranking person. We also believe that this person is from Delphi currently or has previously lived here, visits delphi at a regular basis or works here. Nevertheless, more and more evidence continues to pile up that this rumor is actually true. "They were a good family couple," Matlock said. If you look at the 2019 press conf, Carter says parked at the CPS/DCF [Dept of Children & Families] building. On Indiana states social services website where they list addresses to Dept of Welfare locations and Child Services locations by county. Reading a transcript of the press conference (? Enjoying your content very much. I spoke to him on the phone, and hes a very nice fellow. Family members of Allens,despite multiple attempts to reach them, have not yet spoken publicly about his arrest. But theres no hard evidence that it is true. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This is all very confused. "A volunteer searcher walks the woods near the Monon high bridge east of Delphi where the two teen girls went hiking Monday afternoon and never returned. The sketch released on Monday was drawn by Bryant on Feb. 17, 2017, a few days after the victims' bodies were found. Did he work alone as a solo killer? Stepson X being involved in either of these two ways is simply a theory based on the resemblance to the sketch, we are not accusing this young man of anything, and we request that everyone absolutely leave him alone. In the day since hes joined, Im already stunned at how much hes done. "We havent closed the door on the investigation," McLeland said. And spent a significant amount of time looking for the man in this sketch, and as you said Jim, that man it turned out recently was arrested and was a sex offender. It was initially believed the sketch that has been in public view over the last two years of a person in the age range of his 40s to 50s was a person of interest in this murder investigation. For all we know the witness didn't know about the crime someone and once they heard of it they called be tip in. So this rumor originally came from the police! . He did not charge her, she said. The suspect, who has no criminal record, worked as a pharmacy technician at the local CVS in Delphi a town that numbers about 3,000 people. We now feel that the cut to this girls throat was with a hatchet, although we do not have confirmation of this other than what looks like a hatchet in BGs right jeans area and reports that investigators went clear out of the state to check out two other hatchet criminals. when Libby posted a picture on Snapchat. On February 15, 2011, the Indiana State Police department released a still image of a man seen walking near the Monon High Bridge the same afternoon Abby and Libby were there. My sleuth now thinks that the dolls came from the graveyard. Its unclear if he has yet retained an attorney. I saw your page on a social media thread and clicked on it and read all of the info you have about the Delphi Murders and I was just like woah. A new donor hopes that an addition to the reward fund for the Delphi murders in Indiana will help authorities catch the killer. There were kids there before them, there were kids there during, there were kids there after." Further complicating this matter is the existence of two sketches of two entirely different people. Maybe the witness was scared that the suspect would recognize him or her and be able to track them down or even just be genuinely terrified about coming that close to a killer and coming that close to being killed. likely won't be able to stop thinking about it. The supposed screenshots of text messages cannot be verified in any way and will be disregarded by this website. He and I dont necessarily agree on anything, but he doesnt seem to care about that. Also, if he did cut her throat with one huge swing of a hatchet, it would have soaked BG in blood according to a search warrant from the FBI obtained. Hi Robert have donated to become a member of the Delphi group! ine and Kevin said they were touched when relayed Carrie's message of thanks, though added: "We don't see ourselves as anything other than two journalists who have participated in the case. The search on Bicycle Road might not mean much. This article says the recent sketch was from a witness who saw BG. In his remarks on Monday, Doug Carter gave special thanks to the media and podcasters specifically for the role they've played in helping to keep Libby and Abby's story alive in the wake of their tragic deaths. For more information, please see our The gag order was to be effective until the 1/13/23 hearing on moving the trial. I mean, if it is then its a hell of a job sleuthing wise. Thought that was odd?? Whether law enforcement is sure the DNA they have is the definitively the offender's is unknown. However, his middle name is different. The bodies of Liberty German and Abigail Williams were found on Feb. 14, 2017, after the two teens from Delphi, Ind. We believe this person is currently between the age range of 18 and 40 but might appear younger than his true age. On February 22, 2011 police released an audio recording where the man is heard saying Guys Down the hill The recording is credited to Libby, who secretly recorded the suspect. We now have three separate LE source both reporting dolls at the crime scene. Why not join the 240+ members who have already signed up for the best Delphi sleuthing team of all? Email me to find out. The stepson is a 21 year old man who just graduated from high school and lives with Mr. X and his wife, Mrs. X. -, Press J to jump to the feed. ine explained there is a "chasm" between the information the media has, what the public is being told, and what law enforcement knows and is investigating. Allen, who is married, came forward as a witness in the earlier stages of the investigation, a source told FOX 59. Well that's because that's where all the kids were. Law enforcement has never spoken publicly in reference to specific named witnesses or sightings. "Doug Carter made it clear at the press conference yesterday that the investigation was not over, and he would not rule out the possibility of more people being involved. Two female members of the search party contacted team members separately with revelations about the crime. On 12/8/22, the defense asked for its financial requests to be sealed so their defense strategy would not be revealed. or redistributed. Perhaps he was, and that would be an interesting theory. are what led volunteers to the area the bodies were found. The second statement was from an Indiana detective in another area, in this case Narcotics, who had seen crime scene photos and noted that both girls had been sexually violated with twigs, sticks, and small branches. But they were both definitely on board via the sexual posing of the girls, the dolls on the ground, and the sheet with the smiley face on it at the very least. There were definitely dolls at the site that day. [6] The bridge was a common backdrop for photo shoots like senior pictures and wedding photos. The Delphi Murders turned the small town of Delphi, Indiana from a place no one has heard about, to the place of one of the nation's most heinous, unsolved murders.. Abigail "Abby" Williams, 13-years old, and her best friend Liberty "Libby" Rose Lynn German, 14-years old, went hiking near the Monon High Bridge, a part of the historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana on Monday, February 13 . The only reason they would be looking for that is if the crime was videotaped. The quality of the DNA collected is unknown. The total reward amount now equals $325,000. But this also why the Old BG sketch is no good. Turns out it's a guy whose sexually interested in children, who's had multiple arrests for it right? And when they had found the shoe they had asked what kind of shoes the girls were wearing. August 26, 2017 "If somebody knows something, they need to tell us. If that dick I mean Gray Hughes got any tip, it was from the information I sent to the family, that possibly like the snake he is might have retrieved this information. On Reddit someone said Gray Hughes got a huge tip in about a poi and he said that it had to be him and someone in the Reddit comments said that its only a few days until the person he thinks did it is arrested. A complication of this investigation is that because the trail area was being used as if it was a public space the evidence collected could easily be unrelated to the case. Online there are supposed text messages detailing the manner of how they were found allegedly sent bya family members ex boyfriend. The suspect is seen walking across the bridge in blue jeans and a jacket. Or will this be an opportunity for them to maybe rule out some of those names? I thought Hughes said the person he heard about had never been mentioned as a POI? If so, how did she find out? I have a notebook with a lot of information I thought was important. The search yielded evidence that led to his arrest. WLFI-18 wrote an article that day which said: The recording was longer than what has been released. DELPHI MURDERS: WHAT TO KNOW ABOUT THE 2017 KILLINGS OF LIBBY GERMAN AND ABBY WILLIAMS. When was this? Yeah, they talk about me all the time, but they all hate me lol. The previous sketch was a composite sketch and was "an artist's composite of the information" collected by all the agencies involved in the double-murder investigation, including the FBI, said Indiana State Police Sgt. And we have two independent reports from search party members who agree that there were dolls at the crime scene. One is a middle-aged woman in her 40s with kids who is otherwise completely normal, and the new one who has come forward is a different woman in her 30s. Hopefully I will be able to talk to you someone with a brain, someone who is passionate about this case. By 4 p.m., it was like, 'oh man,''said Patty. " . c) Where was fsg while BG was on the bridge with Abby and Libby? However it is easy to fake screenshots. [1], The official stated reason for this change according to the press release is As the investigation has progressed, information has been continuously reviewed and examined and this sketch more accurately depicts the face of the suspect from the video recorded on Liberty German's cell phone while she and Abigail were on the High Bridge. [2], During the conference Police Superintendent Doug Carter said We have concluded the first sketch released will become secondary as of today, the result of the new information and intelligence over time leads us to believe the sketch which you will see shortly is the person responsible for the murders of these two little girls. [3]. While Flores was long considered the sole suspect in the case, authorities said Lambert was able to uncover witnesses that investigators had never spoken to before, helping them to garner some vital leads. On April 22, 2019 law enforcement released about one second of video of which the previous stills had been taken from. Where was this and again what time was this? All the best, Sarah, Your email address will not be published. The suspect, who appears to have no prior . Allen appeared before Carroll County Circuit Court Judge Benjamin Diener Oct. 28 and entered a not-guilty plea. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, t, activate that video system on her cellphone. ine said. Francey Hakes: The police obviously know who theyre looking for. Then he said, There was at least one doll at the crime scene.. A team discovered the bodies of the girls in a wooded area near the trail, about a half-mile upstream from the bridge, New York Times article You Are Hiding in Plain Sight, 12. 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