Shes written, Science polishes the gift of seeing, Indigenous traditions work with gifts of listening and language. An expert in moss a bryologist she describes mosses as the coral reefs of the forest. Robin Wall Kimmerer opens a sense of wonder and humility for the intelligence in all kinds of life we are used to naming and imagining as inanimate. My grandmother is 98. Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. But if you look at even the letters we use in our the A actually was initially a drawing of an ox, and M was water. And what of the stanzas Join our constellation of listening and living. And now we have watched it in these 25 years go from strength, to strength, to strength. Weve come this far, survived this much. My body is for me.. What. Join our constellation of listening and living. 4.07 avg rating 5,187 ratings published 2016 20 editions. for it again, the hazardous Journalist, National Humanities Medalist, and bestselling author Krista Tippett has created a singular space for reflection and conversation in American and global public life. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. Sometimes it feels like language and poetry, I often start with sounds. Limn: Yeah. A scholar of belonging. A scholar of magic. She grew up loving science fiction, and thought wed be driving flying cars by now; and yet, has found in speculative fiction the transformative force of vision and imagination that might in fact save us. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. But something I started thinking, with this frame, really, this sense of homecoming and our belonging in the natural world runs all the way through every single one of your poems. Limn: It is still the wind. Creativity. wind? for the safety of others, for earth, And I think it was that. and gloss. On Being with Krista Tippett December 6, 2016. Where being at ease is not okay. And then it hits you or something you, like you touch a doorknob, and it reminds you of your mothers doorknob. I spoke with Ada Limn at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis. I have a lot of poems that basically are that. We endeavor to make goodness and complexity riveting. Thats so wonderful. Krista Tippett. podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. She loves human beings. [laughs] I get four parents that come to the school nights. And I felt like I was not brave enough to own that for myself. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. Tippett: And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. It makes room for all of these things that can also be It holds all the truths at once too. Learn more at. Flipboard. In generational time, they are stitching relationship across rupture. Copyright 2023. I wrote in my notes, just my little note about what this was about, recycling and the meaning of it all. I dont think thats . And then what we find in the second poem is a kind of evolution. And there was an ease, I think, that living in the head-only world was kind of a poets dream on some level. Limn: I think its very dangerous not to have hope. But I also feel a little bit out of practice with this live event thing. Page 87. Yeah, I was convinced. And that is so much more present with us all the time. We keep forgetting about Antlia, Centaurus, And one of them this is also on. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly, you can keep it until its needed, until you can, love it again, until the song in your mouth feels, like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung. I mean, thats how we read. Once, I sang it at homecoming and threw No, question marks. a breaking open, a breaking Suppose its easy to slip In generational time, they are stitching relationship across rupture. We read for sense. Limn: I remember having this experience I was sort of very deeply alone during the early days of the pandemic when my husbands work brought him to another state. And I want you to read it. God, which I dont think were going to get to talk about today. I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. , and its a villanelle, so its got a very strict rhyme scheme. So I think thats where, for me, I found any sort of sense of spirituality or belonging. Starting Thursday, February 2: three months of soaring new On Being conversations, with an eye towards emergence. of thee, enough of bosom and bud, skin and god To be made whole/ by being not a witness,/ but witnessed. Can you say a little bit about that? Science and the Human Spirit. Our closing music was composed by Gautam Srikishan. And the title comes from when youre planting a tree and youre looking for where the sun is the right space, you can draw where the circles are, and theyll tell you to plant where the circles overlap. And then I would be like, Okay, I was there. And the next day Id wake up and be like, Well, I was there yesterday. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. And thats also not the religious association with Sunday, right? But time is more spacious than we imagine it to be, and it is more of a friend than we always know. creeks, two highways, two stepparents Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. Before the new apartment. And I remember sitting on my sofa where I spent an inordinate amount of time, and reading it. And it wasnt until really, when I was writing that poem that the word came to me. And you also wrote about that, and you also wrote this essay. Only my head is for you. That arresting notion, and the distinction Rachel Naomi Remen draws between curing and healing, makes this an urgent offering to our world of healing we are all called to receive and to give. We know joy to be a life-giving, resilience-making human birthright. Okay. And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. We prioritize busyness. No, really I was. And I was in the backyard by myself, as many of us were by ourselves. And it was just me, the dog, and the cat, and the trees. We were so focused on survival and illness and vaccines and bad news. The listener wants to understand the humanity behind the words of the other, and patiently summons one's own best self and one's own best words and questions.". With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. Written and read by Krista Tippett is Peabody Award-winning broadcaster and New York Times best-selling author. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. I think thats very true. And you could so a lot of what he knew in Spanish and remembered in Spanish were songs. a need to nestle deep into the safekeeping of sky. Okay, Im going to give you some choices. you look back and beg I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. The conversation of this hour always rises as an early experience that imprinted everything that came after at On Being. Yeah. Ive been reading Ada Limn for years, and was so happy when she was named the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Its wonderful. The thesis has never been exile. the ego and the obliteration of ego, enough Nov 28, 2022. us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt. And so I gave up on it. cigarette smoke or expertise in recipes or And this poem was basically a list of all the poems I didnt think I could write, because it was the early days of the pandemic, and I kept thinking, just that poetry had kind of given up on me, I guess. Limn: Yeah. I never go there very much anymore. The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. [laughter]. Tippett: You see what I did? A student of change and of how groups change together. The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. just the bottlebrush alive I think this poem, for me, is very much about learning to find a home and a sense of belonging in a world where being at peace is actually frowned upon. She is a former host of the poetry podcast. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. Robin is a botanist and also a member of the Citizen Potawatomi Nation. She founded and leads the On Being Project ( www.onbeing.org )a groundbreaking media and public life . It sends us back to work with the raw materials of our lives, understanding that these are always the materials even of change at a cosmic or a societal level. Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. We practice moral imagination; we embrace paradoxical curiosity; we sit with conflict and complexity; we create openings instead of seeking answers or providing reductive simplicity. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course. I wrote it and then I immediately sent it to an editor whos a friend of mine and said, I dont know if you want this. And it was up the next day on the website. She hosted On Being on the radio for about two decades. The truth is, Ive never cared for the National, Anthem. Krista Tippett is the author of Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living and the host of the national public radio show and podcast On Being. Definitely. Every Thursday a new discovery about the immensity of our lives and frequent special features like poetry, music and Q + A with Krista. Yeah. Tippett: I have your books, and theres some, too. in the ground, under the feast up above. @KristaTippett is the host of @OnBeing podcast and a NYTimes bestselling author. big enough not to let go: But in the present era of tribalism, it feels like weve reached our collective limitations Again and again, we have escalated the conflict and snuffed the complexity out of the conversation.. But you said I dont know, I just happened to be I saw you again today. Limn: Oh, thank you. by the crane. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. Krista Tippett has spent more than a decade exploring important questions of life, questions that often involve faith, science and spirituality on her popular radio program and podcast, "On Being." Perhaps I will trust the world and I will feel at peace. And this time, what came to me as I stood and looked at the trees was that Oh, it isnt just me looking. And then I would say in terms of the sacred, it was always the natural world. Tippett: Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. We nurture virtues that build muscle memory towards sustained new realities including generous listening, embodied presence, and transformative relationship across backgrounds and lived experience. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful . Rate. unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright. Oh, Im stressed. Oh, if you want to know about stress, let me tell you, Im stressed., I like to tell my friends when they say theyre really stressed, Ill be like, Oh, I took the most wonderful nap. And this particular poem was written after the 2017 fires in my home valley of Sonoma. Its got breath, its got all those spaces. And this poem was basically a list of all the poems I didnt think I could write, because it was the early days of the pandemic, and I kept thinking, just that poetry had kind of given up on me, I guess. Want to Read. and what I do not say is: I trust the world to come back. Its a prose poem. Limn: Not the Saddest Thing in the World, All day I feel some itchiness around We were so focused on survival and illness and vaccines and bad news. Yeah. We journalists, she wrote, can summon outrage in five words or less. You will hear the voices of wise and graceful lives of former guests, and of listeners from far-flung places. So Im hoping. So its this weird moment of being aware of it and then also letting it go at the same time. We honor poets and poetry as necessary companions in mustering words spacious and generous enough to reach across the mystery of ourselves and the mystery of each other. And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. Find them at, Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. And to feel that moment of everyone recognizing what it is to kind of look out for one another and have to do that in the antithesis of who we are, which was to separate. What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. water, enough sorrow, enough of the air and its ease, so mute its almost in another year. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape, of age. the ground and the feast is where I live now. And I think for all of us, kind of mark this, which is important. And Im not sure Ive had a conversation across all these years that was a more unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief. Her presence on that stage was electric. Why did I never see it for what it was: We have never been exiled. Yeah. And it feels important to me whenever Im in a room right now and I havent been in that many rooms with this many people sitting close together that we all just acknowledge that even if we all this exact same configuration of human beings had sat in this exact room in February 2020, and were back now, were changed at a cellular level. Becoming whole, she teaches, is not about eradicating our wounds and weaknesses; rather, the way we deal with losses, large and small, shapes our capacity to be present to all of our experiences. Just uncertainty is so hard on our bodies. Tippett: Yeah. Its the , Limn: We literally. And the next one is Dead Stars. Which follows a little bit in terms of how do we live in this time of catastrophe that also calls us to rise and to learn and to evolve. [2] Her guests include the 14th Dalai Lama, Maya Angelou, Mohammed Fairouz, Desmond Tutu, Thich Nhat Hanh, Rosanne Cash, Wangari Maathai, Yo-Yo Ma, Paulo Coehlo . beneath us, and I was just Oh, definitely. And enough so that actually, as I would always sort of interrogate her about her beliefs and, Do you think this, do you think that? I think the failure of language is what really draws me to poetry in general. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. So that even when youre talking about the natural world: we are of it not in it. I was so fascinated when I read the earlier poem. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. We inhabit a liminal time between what we thought we knew and what we cant quite yet see. Each of us imprints the people in the world around us . Limn: And I would just have these whole moments when people would be like, Oh, and then well meet in person. And I was like, [sharp breath] I dont want you to witness my body. the world walking in, ready to be ravaged, open for business. Its so interesting because I feel like one of the things as you age, as an artist, as a human being, you start to rethink the stories that people have told you and start to wonder what was useful and what was not useful. Im really longing I realized as I was preparing for this, Im just Of course, I read poetry, I read a lot of poetry in these last years, but I realized Im craving hearing poetry. What is the thesis word or the wind? a certain light does a certain thing, enough Unknown. The wonder of biomimicry. enough chiaroscuro, enough of thus and prophecy Out here, theres a bowing even the trees are doing. And it often falls apart from me. Limn: Yeah. by being not a witness, Talk about any of the limits of language, the failure of language. To be swallowed I mean, even that question you asked, What am I supposed to do with all that silence? Thats one way to talk about the challenge of being human and walking through a life. and desperate, enough of the brutal and the border, scratched and stopped to the original How to make that more vibrant, more visible, and more defining? for all its gross tenderness, a joke told in a sunbeam, Stood for the many mute mouths of the sea, of the land? One of the most popular episodes in the history of "On Being," the 15-year-old public-radio program hosted by the honey-voiced Krista Tippett, is a conversation Tippett had more than ten years ago with the late Irish poet and philosopher John O'Donohue on the subject of the inner landscape of beauty. I get four parents that come to the school nights. And I felt like I was not brave enough to own that for myself. And I feel like theres a level of mystery thats allowed in the poem that feels like, Okay, I can maybe read this into it, I can put myself into it, and it becomes sort of its own thing. And it was just me, the dog, and the cat, and the trees. on the back of my dads (Always, always there is war and bombs.) And this, it turns out, is also a primary source of his tethering in values. A few years ago, Krista hosted an event in Detroit a city in flux on the theme of raising children. And then thats also the space for us to sort of walk in as a reader being like, Whats happening here? A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. but witnessed. capture, capture, capture. Its almost romantic as we adjust the waxy blue Tippett: So I feel like the last one Id like for you to read for us is A New National Anthem, which you read at your inauguration as Poet Laureate. The conversation that resulted with the Jewish-Buddhist teacher and psychotherapist Sylvia Boorstein has been a companion to her and to many from that day forward. the collar, constriction of living. to the field, something to get through before When you find a song or you find something and you think, This. brought to its knees, clung to by someone who Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. Im learning so many different ways to be quiet. Weve come this far, survived this much. Tippett: I guess maybe you had to quit doing that since you had this new job. Talk about any of the limits of language, the failure of language. The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. But let me say, I was taken I will say this poem began I was telling you how poems begin and sometimes with sounds, sometimes with images This was a sound of, you know when everyone rolls out their recycling at the same time. We read for sense. not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, enough of the will to go on and not go on or how, a certain light does a certain thing, enough, of the kneeling and the rising and the looking. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. Limn: Oh, definitely. would happen if we decided to survive more? Winters icy hand at the back of all of us. And its funny to tell people that youre raised an atheist because theyre like, Really? But I was. Amanda Ripley began her life as a journalist covering crime, disaster, and terrorism. Once it has been witnessed could save the hireling and the slave? And for us, it was Sundays. On Being with Krista Tippett On Being Studios Society & Culture 4.6 9.1K Ratings; A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. Every week: practices and goodies to accompany your listen. Yeah. Centuries of pleasure before us and after But when we talk about the limitations of language in general, I find language is so strange. My body is for me. [audience laughter] And it really struck me that how much I was like, How do I move through this world? Remembering what it is to be a body, I think to be a woman who moves through the world with a body, who gets commented on the body. And poetry doesnt really allow you to do that because its working in the smallest units of sound and syllable and clause and line break and then the sentence. Tippett: I feel like it brings us back to wholeness somehow. Yet what Amanda has gone on to investigate and so, so helpfully illuminate is not just about journalism, or about politics. Join our weekly ritual of a newsletter, The Pause, delivered to your inbox every Saturday morning. They are honoring and recovering the fullness of the human experience the life of the mind, the truth of the body, the wild mystery of the spirit, and our need for each other. Tippett: And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. [laughter] Where some of you were like, Eww, as soon as I said it. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, All year, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. Its a prose poem. During her 20-plus years as host of public radio's "On Being" show which aired on some 400 stations across the country Krista Tippett and her beautifully varied slate of guests . Alex Cochran, Deseret News. BOB ABERNETHY, anchor: We have a profile today of Krista Tippett, the host of the weekly public radio conversation "Speaking of Faith," which won a Peabody Award this week. I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? Supporting organizations and initiatives that uphold a sacred relationship with life on Earth. You said there in a place, as Ive aged, I have more time for tenderness, for the poems that are so earnest they melt your spine a little. It touches almost every aspect of human life in almost every society around the world right now. What if we stood up with our synapses and flesh and said. and snowshoes, maple and seeds, samara and shoot, The poets brain is always like that, but theres a little I was just doing the wash, and I was like, Casual, warm, and normal. And I was like, Ooh, I could really go for that.. Tippett: Yeah. This is a moving and edifying conversation that is also, not surprisingly, a lot of fun. I think that there is a lot about trying to figure out who we are with ourselves. Can you locate that? We journalists, she wrote, "can summon outrage in five words or Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). And that was in shorter supply than one would think. These are heavier, page 86 and page 87. The original idea, when we say like our, thesis statement, or even when we say like. Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. We are fluent in the story of our time marked by catastrophe and dysfunction. Tacos. Because you did write a great essay called Taco Truck Saved my Marriage.. are your bones, and your bones are my bones, Krista Tippett founded and leads "The On Being Project," hosts the globally esteemed On Being public radio show and podcast, and curates the "Civil Conversat. Before the ceramics in the garbage. In her Peabody-award winning public radio show and podcast, On Being, Krista Tippett provides a space for deep and meaningful conversations with profound thi. Do you remember the Colbert Report when Stephen Colbert was doing the earlier show, and he had this one skit where he said, I love breathing, I could do it all day long. [laughter] And I always think about that because of course, its so ironic that we have to think about our breath. even the tenacious high school band off key. Image by Danyang Ma, All Rights Reserved. Lean Spirituality. What were talking about and not when we talk about mental health. Bit out of practice with this live event thing, too then trauma! 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